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Discussion #8: Of multiple fandoms and convergent evolution...

Posted by b2wm on 01.10.2007 at 4.14.pm
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One doesn't have to have read the reviews for the Eragon movie to know that sometimes, one character seems to be based heavily upon a previous model. Sometimes, even if two characters are not consciously derieved from the same source, they go through such similar turning points or have such similar quirks that the mind cannot help but draw parallels.

As Tolkien has often been described as a founding father of fantasy, there are plenty of people who may have a little bit of Frodo, Aragorn, or Gandalf in them. Of all your other fandoms, is there one that you think was particularly influenced by Tolkien? Any favorite characters that could pass for a "morphic twin*" of an elf, dwarf, hobbit, or man of Arda? What made the connections for you? Does this change your feelings for the characters?

*I take no responsibility for luring people to the Disc Dark Side other fandoms.


Teller of Fortunes
lariren_shadow at 2007-01-11 01:55 (UTC) (Link)
Harry Potter all the way. I was about the throw the 6th book when they got to the cave. It was lit by moonlight and glowed silver and if Dumbledore had said "oh, its simple, speak friend and enter" the book would have gone flying. I see the Dementors like Ringwriaths. But none of the character really jump out at me as "oh that really *insert other name here*". I see that they are the same, but not in all ways. Some of it just gets to me at times though.

Come to think of it, I do make comments about things being like Lord of the Rings, but recently it was stuff that Tolkien probably read. Like the Anglo-Saxon poem "The Wanderer" has a speech that starts "'Where has the horse gone? Where is the young warrior?...'" So its not so much that I have read recent books, its more like I have read older things that make me make references.

I can kind of see where a character from a book loved called Crown Duel sounds, at times, a little like Faramir. Oh! But that has the Hill Folk! They are like Ents but more human looking. That always gets me when I read that book. And the Faramir like character looks more like movie Legolas.
amarra_jade at 2007-01-11 02:59 (UTC) (Link)
Terry Brooks's Sword of Shannara series; particularly the first book, The Sword of Shannara. I liked it a lot, but the parallels with LOTR couldn't be any more blaringly obvious.

Plot Synopsis: Allanon the Druid goes to the peaceful, Shire-esque village of Shady Vale, home of the Valemen (who are shorter than the average man), and tells a young Valeman named Shea Ohmsford that he is the last descendant of the Elf king Jerle Shannara, who wielded a magical sword in battle against the Warlock Lord Brona and defeated, but did not destroy him, because he wasn't aware of the Sword's true power. Shea and his adopted brother Flick then depart from Shady Vale and, accompanied by Allanon, two men named Balinor and Menion Leah, twin Elves names - I kid you not - Durin and Dayel, and a Dwarf named Hendel, they set out to recover the Sword and use it to destroy the Warlock Lord. On their journey, they are pursued by the Warlock Lord's shadowy minions, the Skull Bearers. There's even a scene where Allanon battles a Skull Bearer over a fiery chasm that smacks of a certain scene from FOTR - except that Allanon is a little luckier than Gandalf and manages to avoid falling to his doom by grabbing onto a ledge and climbing back up.
amarra_jade at 2007-01-11 03:37 (UTC) (Link)
*Terry Brooks's Shannara series - 86 the "Sword of".
**Twin Elves named, not names.

Less Miserable
inconceivablelf at 2007-01-11 21:15 (UTC) (Link)
Eragon and Arya, from Eragon, bear a suspicious resemblence to Aragorn and Arwen, and it's not just their names. last chance for a defeated race meets beautiful elf princess?
Ithilien Ranger
shannon_zhang at 2007-01-12 14:23 (UTC) (Link)
Rowling has some subtle references to our dear Professor's work. There is a dog called Fang. Longbottom is mentioned in both. Err...Mugglenet has the rest of the stuff. Dementors and Ringwraiths! Those always get me.
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