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Denethor /Finduilas, magic 8 palantir, Havelock Hurin

For discussion: Canon Extrapolators (Man)

Posted by b2wm on 07.09.2007 at 11.37.pm
Current Mood: awakeawake
You get a work that spans generations like the Silmarillion and countries like The Hobbit, and you're bound to have some places that can't be filled in to everyone's satisfaction in the main works. Even with the appendices, there were just a few things that Tolkien didn't get a chance to color in.

Into the breach come essayists, fanartists, and fic writers. Some of them may have awesome interpretations on things like Legolas's childhood, or what the Haradrim were really like in their own lands. Others may have cracked-out theories on Beruthiel's cats, or amusing explanations on what was with Amrod and Amras, seriously. Then, of course, there are the bits of fanon that you want to poke with a Mk. III Cluerod because you've seen them so many times and they still don't make a lick of sense, whether just because you don't understand where it comes from, or because it doesn't seem reasonable for the characters as you know them.

So, hit me: what's your favorite twist on Tolkien? What fanon do you think needs to be hung upside down in a scorpion pit over the Void? (Don't suppose I have to mention two of my least favorite fanon creations if you recognize the name and icon, but Balrog Bunny Slippers and Bombadil the Witch-King make for some amusing theories.) Anything you'd like an explanation for, fanonwise, like Schroedinger's Blue Wizards*?

*(Put Alatar and Pallandro into any Fourth Age fic. Nigh on invariably, one will be good; one will be evil. You can't tell until they're out of the box, but until you've observed one and therefore affected the other, you can't tell which is which. Must fight like cats, those two.)

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El
elvenpiratelady at 2007-07-10 04:42 (UTC) (Link)
Wheee! Nuclear physics! *is a nerd* I must admit, I've never read any Fourth Age fics with the Blue Wizards.

The History of Galadriel and Celeborn - I wish Tolkien would just make up his mind about it. I'd love to hear more about Gondolin and its fall. I wish we had a way of calculating Elvish populations, that would be useful. I wish there was more info about Numenor.

As for fanon pet peeves - Evil!Thranduil, Evil!Denethor, etc. Arranged marriages between Elves. The appalling lack of fics about Dwarves. And the question about Elf hair colour has driven me to distraction, as anyone who's read my essay on Thranduil's hair will see. :D
Anahana - Quentae for Balance - Just call me Anna!
sheiannasherra at 2007-07-10 05:17 (UTC) (Link)
As for fanon pet peeves - Evil!Thranduil, Evil!Denethor...

Add in Evil!Boromir and you'll have my top 3!

Ah, yes, I'd love more about Gondolin - was thinking about that when reading Children of Hurin - and more of Numenor. I'd also love more about the drowning of Beleriand. The idea of lands lost to the sea is one that has always intrigued me. (and I wonder if it would answer the question of where the Entwives went or were destroyed.)
El
elvenpiratelady at 2007-07-10 07:25 (UTC) (Link)
Gah. I forgot Evil!Boromir, and Emo!Faramir.

The Entwives went to Beleriand - I really like that idea! Argh, plotbunny attack! *hides*
Anahana - Quentae for Balance - Just call me Anna!
sheiannasherra at 2007-07-10 13:33 (UTC) (Link)
Hee heee.... plotbunnies! I've already been through the Entwives in Beleriand plotbunny attack, though I've managed to fend them off so far! (actually it was a remnant of the Entwives in a hidden valley in the far west of the Blue Mountains, to be more specific)
Grayswandir
_grayswandir_ at 2007-07-10 11:45 (UTC) (Link)
*(Put Alatar and Pallandro into any Fourth Age fic. Nigh on invariably, one will be good; one will be evil. You can't tell until they're out of the box, but until you've observed one and therefore affected the other, you can't tell which is which. Must fight like cats, those two.)

Dude. I've never read any fic with the blue wizards, but still, dude. I believe the phrase I'm looking for is oh my god, you win the internet. With some exclamation points and some ones on the end.

I'll probably be back to actually reply to the discussion when other matters stop consuming my brain. In the meantime, my icon will have to speak for me. I must say, though, Bombadil the Witch-King sounds highly entertaining...
El
elvenpiratelady at 2007-07-13 10:38 (UTC) (Link)
I also find it interesting that the three named queens of Gondor (Beruthiel, Vidumavi/Galadwen, and Arwen) are not Gondorian.
Rhîw Laer
songs_of_winter at 2007-08-22 23:14 (UTC) (Link)

Elf

Fannon pet peves, hmm?

I would have to say that I totally fail to comprehend Evil!Boromir. He'd have to be one the most misunderstood characters out there. Granted that's a failing more common in the movie fandom who haven't read the books... but there are a great many people out there too lazy to do the damn reading!

I haven't read much Fourth Age fic, though I've dabbled in it a bit. Blue Wizards might be kind of entertaining, though, if done well.

I wish there were more back-story about the Kings of Gondor... and the Numenorans in general.

I'd like more about the Ents in general, too. I find them to be a facinating race, and while a tale would likely cover centuries or milennia rather than months or years... it'd be worth it to see what would come of it.
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